A discussion from 1984 with Dr Shafica Karagulla and Mrs Dora Kunz about their research project on higher energy centres (so-called chakras).

Mrs Dora Kunz (1904-1999) was a person of extrasensory abilities, who conducted many research experiments together with Dr Karagulla. She was able to see the “invisible” envelopes of man and was particularly known for her work with the unseen human energy fields. She was able to clearly perceive blockages and dysrhythms in a patient's energy fields, subtle disharmonies not accessible to other medical technologies. Mrs Kunz was a teacher of Therapeutic Touch and a former President of the American Theosophical Society.

Dr Shafica Karagulla (1914-1986) was a medical doctor, neuro-psychiatrist and scientist. In 1948 she obtained a diploma in psychological medicine (D.P.M.) from the Royal College of Physicians of London and the Royal College of Surgeons of England and in 1950 she became a Member of the Royal College of Physicians of Edinburgh (M.R.C.P.Ed.), the highest medical qualification in Great Britain. In her research she delved deep into the hidden side of human abilities and constitution. She used scientific methods and recorded her findings and observations of many types of extrasensory abilities in her book *Breakthrough to Creativity* (1967).

Please also see the analysis: The Invisible Part of Man